TwinTurbo.NET: Nissan 300ZX forum - No I dont think so, I would support greg if his downpipes
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No I dont think so, I would support greg if his downpipes
Posted by
red300zxtt
on November 04, 2004 at 1:56 PM
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seconded.
posted by ni[X]it
on November 04, 2004 at 01:46 PM
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were REASONABLY priced. They are not. The welds on the downpipes lately have been GARBAGE. Atleast these 'chinese' welders do the job right.
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Captain Losing Battle strikes again
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SeedyROM
13:02:32 11/04/04
well said (n/m)
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Luke@tirerack
13:09:12 11/04/04
Good point...
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College Boy
13:09:31 11/04/04
Yeah, it's not just that one example of pipes though
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SeedyROM
13:11:55 11/04/04
Thing is that I added up the price for what i want...
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College Boy
13:18:45 11/04/04
True of the Midori upper arms getting copied also
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Technomancer
13:40:49 11/04/04
That slides because the product isn't made anymore
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SeedyROM
13:51:00 11/04/04
Re: That slides because the product isn't made anymore
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Ionic (www.IonicDynamics.com)
14:04:18 11/04/04
Exploitation of someone elses design is your forte. All of
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Zeorymer
23:55:33 11/04/04
Re: Exploitation of someone elses design is your forte. All of
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Ionic (www.IonicDynamics.com)
14:05:33 11/05/04
i just read that off the original thread, its sad... (n/m)
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mousersix (San Antonio)
13:10:48 11/04/04
I understand your point and what you are saying
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ZXRider
13:18:17 11/04/04
Here Here! (n/m)
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boileralum
13:32:40 11/04/04
Please stop whining.
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Kenny
13:38:02 11/04/04
You don't have to read it if you don't like it
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SeedyROM
13:45:28 11/04/04
Re: You don't have to read it if you don't like it
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Kenny
13:59:21 11/04/04
Here you go>>>
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SeedyROM
14:10:13 11/04/04
I agree.
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Kenny
14:16:16 11/04/04
Works for me
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SeedyROM
14:47:17 11/04/04
How do you patent something you didn't invent??? (n/m)
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Zeorymer
23:30:13 11/04/04
Remember, if the design is different and the old style is
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SeedyROM
00:17:02 11/05/04
it generally takes a minumum of 2 years to recieve a patent.
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ni[X]it
13:51:07 11/04/04
Patent pending does afford you legal protection. (n/m)
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Kenny
14:05:00 11/04/04
"patent pending" has no legal significance
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aliaZ
16:42:55 11/04/04
Looks like my source was wrong =(. ack. (n/m)
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Kenny
17:14:58 11/04/04
it just depends on the lawyer game (n/m)
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SuparexTT
01:29:56 11/05/04
You are missing the point.
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olyar15
13:54:31 11/04/04
Z33 ? Just look how they are reproducing the 350Z parts.
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govaardz(Aruba)
16:09:53 11/04/04
And the point is, that market is growing, so even with
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olyar15
16:34:43 11/04/04
Re: Please stop whining.
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Ionic (www.IonicDynamics.com)
13:57:16 11/04/04
Re: Re: Please stop whining.
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Kenny
14:07:35 11/04/04
Here is the catch, and it's a major one:
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Marshall
14:02:55 11/04/04
Right...
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Kenny
14:06:53 11/04/04
Usually the costs to enforce a patent outweigh
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Ionic (www.IonicDynamics.com)
14:24:12 11/04/04
Please provide some objective data to back up your argument.
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Kenny
14:29:27 11/04/04
Re: Please provide some objective data to back up your argument.
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kuah@splparts.com
15:05:13 11/04/04
One simple example:
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Ionic (www.IonicDynamics.com)
15:06:37 11/04/04
Excellent information, thank you both (this goes for Kuah 2) (n/m)
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Kenny
15:21:13 11/04/04
Great post
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SeedyROM
15:39:01 11/04/04
I think the twin dump downpipe had been around for
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colocomp (Denver)
14:24:45 11/04/04
Correct and correct. You can not patent a product once it
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Scotts94z32
14:28:31 11/04/04
The split pipes for the Z32 has been around before
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govaardz(Aruba)
16:02:55 11/04/04
seconded.
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ni[X]it
13:46:01 11/04/04
Yeah, too bad you don't have any products that would
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boileralum
13:48:49 11/04/04
actually, as I remember he does... (n/m)
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Technomancer
13:56:36 11/04/04
unfortunantly, the plenum is not much a secret...
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ni[X]it
13:59:29 11/04/04
I was also thinking of the rear diffuser project (n/m)
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Technomancer
14:04:06 11/04/04
wow. good memory.
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ni[X]it
14:07:25 11/04/04
I hope the redesigned plenum isn't [X]'ed. That could be a
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whitepearlz (Defi Whore)
14:21:46 11/04/04
Just on hold until I get the time and money,
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ni[X]it
14:42:38 11/04/04
I just contacted a friend at a machineshop
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red300zxtt
14:46:43 11/04/04
Sounds good, Nixit. But please do keep us updated.. this is
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whitepearlz (Defi Whore)
21:55:57 11/04/04
thats interesting, Im just custom fitting some 76mm throttle
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ZisLuv
23:22:26 11/04/04
No I dont think so, I would support greg if his downpipes -
red300zxtt
13:56:43 11/04/04
No one even dignify him a response
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SeedyROM
14:02:20 11/04/04
unfortunately you are just one of many groupies here
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red300zxtt
14:06:00 11/04/04
Re: unfortunately
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ni[X]it
14:10:47 11/04/04
id gladly place bets on tested, proven, and highly>>
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mousersix (San Antonio)
16:07:26 11/04/04
ITS NOT A COPY, he uses rebadged magnaflow cans
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red300zxtt
17:26:49 11/04/04
Actually he uses Sebring mufflers
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trackstar
20:44:16 11/04/04
which are magnaflows........ (n/m)
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red300zxtt
20:55:41 11/04/04
He only recently only used Sebring. I have Magnaflows from
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Zeorymer
23:20:20 11/04/04
you seem to be defending this guy to the death
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mousersix (San Antonio)
02:10:02 11/05/04
you're wrong, stop posting.
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red300zxtt
07:53:48 11/05/04
Re: you're wrong, stop posting.
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mousersix (San Antonio)
10:25:46 11/05/04
Golf clap..... tell it like it is! :) (n/m)
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Zeorymer
23:16:27 11/04/04
You ever figure out what a box-end wrench is? (n/m)
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Snoguitar
14:23:07 11/04/04
Why don't YOU take a second to tell us what you know
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Scotts94z32
14:25:57 11/04/04
dont take it personal but...
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TARGETZ
14:35:30 11/04/04
I just checked my profile, I'm safe :) (n/m)
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ni[X]it
14:38:01 11/04/04
Im not :-)
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TARGETZ
14:41:36 11/04/04
No you are not (n/m)
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kuah@splparts.com
19:03:43 11/04/04
No offense taken... some answers...
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Scotts94z32
15:00:12 11/04/04
Dear Scott, I'd kill for dp's with external exhaust turbine
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Kenny
15:06:59 11/04/04
Ask Santa, he may have lower overhead.. ;p (n/m)
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Scotts94z32
15:10:41 11/04/04
Re: Ask Santa, he may have lower overhead.. ;p
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Kenny
15:22:46 11/04/04
Ask Greg about these and see what he tells you.
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Woody75 (Denver)
15:44:30 11/04/04
Mine is the first and only design. Greg can improve
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AzHeat
16:00:25 11/04/04
Guy in Austrailia has a set up as well.
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Woody75 (Denver)
16:25:20 11/04/04
Couldn't you just modify existing split down pipes? (n/m)
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College Boy
15:55:58 11/04/04
I certainly couldn't =). That may be a good starting...
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Kenny
16:46:03 11/04/04
LOL - but that makes no sense either - why would you spend
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Unluky (MO)
14:56:51 11/04/04
Re: LOL - but that makes no sense either - why would you spend
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ni[X]it
15:04:32 11/04/04
Oh, please, you look for validation for your thoughts all
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AzHeat
15:10:03 11/04/04
Please be careful where you step Micheal.
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ni[X]it
15:16:31 11/04/04
Ease up there Az
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SeedyROM
15:35:49 11/04/04
Didn't mean to responed to you Nix-but anyway - to me
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Unluky (MO)
15:21:34 11/04/04
the fact of the matter is that charging so much
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cafenated
13:50:54 11/04/04
Our cars have TWO of nearly everything, don't forget that
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SeedyROM
14:00:33 11/04/04
2 of everything but 4 times the price
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cafenated
14:11:12 11/04/04
Call up Labree and ask them how long it takes
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SeedyROM
14:22:25 11/04/04
Perfectly said, materials and labor are only a small part
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Ionic (www.IonicDynamics.com)
14:33:19 11/04/04
Yea whatever, here are the things to come: Greed
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red300zxtt
14:40:41 11/04/04
Hey, IF you were right, no one would buy the stuff
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SeedyROM
14:58:06 11/04/04
I can assure you that he wont
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red300zxtt
15:09:10 11/04/04
Riiiiight (n/m)
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SeedyROM
15:16:04 11/04/04
2nd. (n/m)
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Snoguitar
15:18:24 11/04/04
The initial R&D is insignificant if you price your product
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cafenated
14:53:57 11/04/04
In a limited market (Z32s), R&D costs are everything. (n/m)
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ni[X]it
14:59:26 11/04/04
Exactly, and if you produce them in the sates the costs are
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Ionic (www.IonicDynamics.com)
15:10:51 11/04/04
LOL... you are clueless (n/m)
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Scotts94z32
14:35:55 11/04/04
ok...no
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red300zxtt
14:14:59 11/04/04
your posts make my head hurt (n/m)
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JuicycJ4(SWMO)
14:32:01 11/04/04
He's comparing it to an exhaust made for a
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lakerdude42
14:33:19 11/04/04
Unfortunately you have no idea what you're talking about
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red300zxtt
14:38:04 11/04/04
lol , I used the Enzo as an example of what
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lakerdude42
14:48:33 11/04/04
would you like pics of my exhaust?
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red300zxtt
14:55:07 11/04/04
damn, if labree is so shitty, why do so many people swear
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mousersix (San Antonio)
21:17:13 11/04/04
Brain washed maybe. Possibly Low self-esteem w/ the need to
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Zeorymer
23:42:54 11/04/04
If you don't see the connection then I'm not explaining it
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SeedyROM
14:38:50 11/04/04
A note about the $700 Jspec Tails price...
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YugoBernie (NoVA)
14:21:15 11/04/04
Thanks Bernie, I could have used a better example
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SeedyROM
14:24:56 11/04/04
Agreed. (n/m)
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YugoBernie (NoVA)
14:25:35 11/04/04
...and I can't help but think some of the other vendors...
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Kenny
14:26:05 11/04/04
Indeed, I said that here:
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SeedyROM
14:29:23 11/04/04
The costs of most metals has gone up ~25-50% over the past
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Scotts94z32
14:37:54 11/04/04
there was other venders too
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TARGETZ
14:29:43 11/04/04
Yep. I remember when the JSpec facia was around $1000
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ENVYMYZ
15:02:34 11/04/04
And Bernie what about the 99 jspec sideskirts ?
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govaardz(Aruba)
16:12:04 11/04/04
They really cost that much. (n/m)
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YugoBernie (NoVA)
16:17:50 11/04/04
Would it be legal to copy those ? And also make them for the
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govaardz(Aruba)
16:19:54 11/04/04
Reproduction body panels are all over the market, no law
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YugoBernie (NoVA)
16:29:43 11/04/04
Why are JWT ecu's still $695? They haven't
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AzHeat
14:24:23 11/04/04
They are nuts
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SeedyROM
14:37:27 11/04/04
Wrong. The issue is not nearly that simple.
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Marshall
14:12:52 11/04/04
sure it is
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cafenated
14:22:03 11/04/04
Actually, yes.
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SeedyROM
14:35:28 11/04/04
Re: Actually, yes.
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cafenated
14:46:39 11/04/04
Please read my ENTIRE message
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SeedyROM
14:53:32 11/04/04
I did read your entire message
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cafenated
14:55:43 11/04/04
Okay, I'll make it more clear
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SeedyROM
15:04:47 11/04/04
Finally, a statement you made that I can partially agree
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red300zxtt
15:14:27 11/04/04
Here, I have an offer for you>>>
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SeedyROM
15:24:41 11/04/04
k that's nice, my craptacular ebay downpipes
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red300zxtt
15:48:56 11/04/04
How about you call him and record the conversaton...
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Snoguitar
16:01:50 11/04/04
Bro.. it's WIDGET... spell it with me. W-I-D-G-E-T
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Smurf Z
16:16:35 11/04/04
R&D? i don't think so. (n/m)
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Zeorymer
23:49:16 11/04/04
Unless you mean....
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Zeorymer
00:07:18 11/05/04
you mean
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TARGETZ
14:16:14 11/04/04
Yep! Some reputable vendors here are guilty of it too.
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SeedyROM
14:24:04 11/04/04
Re: Yep! Some reputable vendors here are guilty of it too.
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TARGETZ
14:28:43 11/04/04
I wasn't able to :(
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SeedyROM
14:31:59 11/04/04
I think the problem was
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TARGETZ
14:38:33 11/04/04
That may be
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SeedyROM
14:40:00 11/04/04
About the arms
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govaardz(Aruba)
15:08:26 11/04/04
wow thanks for the link! Just ordered myself a pair. (n/m)
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red300zxtt
15:16:38 11/04/04
Re: you mean
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kuah@splparts.com
14:45:56 11/04/04
Thanks for clarifying that
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SeedyROM
14:49:32 11/04/04
(extensive) rumor has it,
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ni[X]it
14:54:49 11/04/04
Re: (extensive) rumor has it,
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kuah@splparts.com
15:23:04 11/04/04
New Thread on patents
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dvlhntr
00:41:24 11/05/04
Well a subframe bushing can't be made different. (n/m)
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govaardz(Aruba)
15:27:49 11/04/04
I was looking at old Options Mag. in 1996 and
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Spongerider :)
16:03:05 11/04/04
Exactly....
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govaardz(Aruba)
16:15:00 11/04/04
Re: Re: you mean
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TARGETZ
14:56:30 11/04/04
Kuah's parts are made in Japan
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govaardz(Aruba)
15:01:28 11/04/04
How about...
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dpjax
18:39:46 11/04/04
Re: Re: Re: you mean
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kuah@splparts.com
15:43:31 11/04/04
I guess that is the legal question
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TARGETZ
17:28:35 11/04/04
You know, I was going to buy the Ebay ones till you posted
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aggiez32
14:28:56 11/04/04
All I have to say is....WERD (n/m)
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RAGTPZ(OH)
14:38:52 11/04/04
NAFTA baby. It's not just jobs going over seas, it's the
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DougG
14:39:22 11/04/04
NAFTA is only North America. (n/m)
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Marshall
14:43:41 11/04/04
2nd-Nothing to do with China/Japan that are kicking our butt (n/m)
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Unluky (MO)
15:03:56 11/04/04
they aren't kicking our butt.
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Marshall
15:11:12 11/04/04
Yeah-go look our export/import levels. They are a joke.
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Unluky (MO)
15:34:46 11/04/04
Re: Yeah-go look our export/import levels. They are a joke.
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Dustin
15:44:21 11/04/04
People like you want to see the USA fail.
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Marshall
16:28:00 11/04/04
Get off your high horse dude - stating the facts does not
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Unluky (MO)
17:05:57 11/04/04
I never said this:
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Marshall
09:57:16 11/05/04
You are exactly right. I just didn't want to have to
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DougG
15:55:47 11/04/04
NAFTA was not expanded worldwide. Don't know where
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Dustin
16:19:56 11/04/04
Didn't read it. Lived it. About a year after NAFTA was
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DougG
19:52:18 11/04/04
Wow. interesting discussion. I think you are going to be
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SwatsavZ
14:41:16 11/04/04
Oh, that hit landed! Japanese auto industry
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Technomancer
14:46:35 11/04/04
And they only excelled because they made them "better"
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SeedyROM
14:52:15 11/04/04
Excellent point. They not only made them better, they
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DougG
16:03:14 11/04/04
Let's not forget they also made things people actually
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dilo
18:08:45 11/04/04
lol, i feel what you're saying. I have conflicting
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SwatsavZ
14:52:25 11/04/04
hahaha (n/m)
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red300zxtt
14:51:01 11/04/04
Are you going to ride coattails all day long? (n/m)
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SeedyROM
14:55:16 11/04/04
What'd you expect? That's what this whole thread is about! (n/m)
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Technomancer
14:57:01 11/04/04
ROFL! Touche :) (n/m)
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SeedyROM
14:58:45 11/04/04
I just bought a fantastic pair of smoked turn signals
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red300zxtt
14:58:20 11/04/04
Good for you
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SeedyROM
15:00:00 11/04/04
This whole thread should be nuked. (n/m)
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red300zxtt
15:22:49 11/04/04
Use your VTD rights. (n/m)
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SeedyROM
15:36:17 11/04/04
Too busy shopping on ebay for Z parts, sorry. (n/m)
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red300zxtt
15:38:44 11/04/04
Don't like it? Don't read / post in it. (n/m)
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Smurf Z
15:49:56 11/04/04
You can't expect consumers to pay more...
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dpjax
18:41:35 11/04/04
Too bad they arent really "smoked" lol
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ENVYMYZ
15:10:08 11/04/04
he's worthless (n/m)
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Red300ztt96
15:39:19 11/04/04
i must concur (n/m)
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mousersix (San Antonio)
21:01:51 11/04/04
LOL - good call. We are bashing people for buying parts
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Unluky (MO)
15:07:16 11/04/04
Wow, you must be proud....dumbass (n/m)
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SaVageZ™
00:50:58 11/05/04
??????????
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SwatsavZ
09:30:45 11/05/04
Why don't you just patent your "innovative" products? (n/m)
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TWINTURBONICK
14:59:43 11/04/04
Read this section of thread for your answer:
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SeedyROM
15:02:06 11/04/04
read the thread moron. (n/m)
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ni[X]it
15:02:33 11/04/04
They will copy it anyways.
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govaardz(Aruba)
15:03:33 11/04/04
Exactly. (n/m)
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SeedyROM
15:05:35 11/04/04
Hotshot was having issues with their headers being copied...
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Crim
15:11:39 11/04/04
Absolutely! But ask them now if they'd do it again
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SeedyROM
15:13:21 11/04/04
I understand, but there is nothing you can do
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silver_fairlady
15:12:19 11/04/04
"Lost Cause" :) (n/m)
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SeedyROM
15:16:44 11/04/04
Seedy vs. Capitalism.
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AzHeat
15:38:33 11/04/04
Way to whittle it down :) (n/m)
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SeedyROM
15:41:26 11/04/04
A list of ebay copies
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govaardz(Aruba)
15:41:43 11/04/04
Nobody said it was fair. Fair and capitalism are
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AzHeat
15:54:05 11/04/04
agreed (n/m)
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Spee
16:52:26 11/04/04
I'm afraid the US is in a bad position. Let me sum it up.
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Marshall
17:17:10 11/04/04
Very interesting topic.
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RSR
19:01:25 11/04/04
Re: Very interesting topic.
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Marshall
07:09:59 11/05/04
With this one I agree with you big time SeedyROM
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cafenated
10:11:09 11/05/04
Eventually things will equalize
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Guy (SoCal)
17:50:43 11/04/04
They will, but it could take hundreds of years.
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Marshall
07:17:41 11/05/04
Repost. (n/m)
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hoss
19:29:47 11/04/04
I know for a fact that other countries like Australia were
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Zeorymer
23:27:47 11/04/04
And Japan
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SeedyROM
00:15:46 11/05/04
my 2 cents..... with a new thread to come later
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dvlhntr
00:49:56 11/05/04
goes to show you who the true car enthusiasts are
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Polish
01:08:06 11/05/04
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